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JAPANESE KILLED LOTS OF PEOPLE
by 無回答 from バンクーバー 2005/09/19 22:31:39

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Check this out.

These pictures are from Corean.

Res.1 by 無回答 from バンクーバー 2005/09/19 22:39:28

Not even that man...
Japanese killed over 50,000 people in China.
Their government never showed up.  
Res.2 by 無回答 from バンクーバー 2005/09/19 22:41:41

I mean over 500,000 people ...
They fucked girls... and they killed, same as Corea.
 
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Res.4 by 無回答 from バンクーバー 2005/09/20 03:49:14

We should’ve killed more motherfuckers like you!  
Res.5 by Japan is no.1 from How smart japanese 2005/09/20 04:14:08

In war there are winners and losers. The media on the winning side eventually takes hold over the loser, carefully filtering information -- as well as re-writing history, to reshape the loser’s thinking in accordance with the winner’s ideology. Thus, any account of war by the defeated is usually dismissed as "revisionist history" or brushed aside as grousing. Indeed, recounting the tales of the victors of World War II is still lucrative business, even 50 years after the end of the war, and the "moral lessons" of the war are dove-tailed into contemporary issues by the media (e.g. Pearl Harbor and September 11), even if the circumstances are quite unique. The official version of events eventually fossilizes as dogma, but because it excludes accounts of the losing side, it stands without a solid foundation. The official version of history then forms the basis of current and future policies, with disastrous consequences.

A peculiar offshoot of modern war is the concept of victor’s justice, or vigilantism disguised as is justice, punishment based on dubious allegations that is enforced on both civilians as well as combatants. The post-war experiences of the Germans, and more recently, the Serbs and Arabs serve as good examples of the concept of victor’s justice. The exact origin of the need for extreme vengeance is not clear, since civilians in previous centuries were not usually targeted for post-war retribution. The ancient Hebrews, however, have shown a propensity for mass enslavement and slaughter following victory. Since Jews have significant influence over U.S. military and foreign policy, perhaps some of these ancient lessons have been carried over into modern times. It would not be a stretch to suggest that American post-war policies may be an extension of the Jewish experience.

The other loser of the Second World War was the Japanese. The end of the war brought "regime change" and the summary executions of "war criminals." After a period of democratization, including the adoption of a Marxist constitution (co-authored by Jews), Japan signed a peace treaty with the U.S. and most of the Allies in 1951. A separate peace treaty with the nationalist Chinese was signed the following year. The communist Chinese, however, were determined to extract their revenge. Although the communist Chinese and the Japanese issued a joint communique in 1972, in which the Communists would drop the matter of reparations against Japan, organized and individual Chinese are still demanding that Tokyo address compensation for alleged war crimes. Curiously, other Asians, such as the Filipinos, who gained their independence from white colonialists as a direct result of the Pacific War, were also jumping at the prospect of further punishing Japan - despite signing onto a peace treaty in which they waived the right to seek further reparations. Those signing onto the treaty were allowed to seize Japanese assets and receive fair compensation in the form of reconstruction aid. Although the Japanese were alleged to commit numerous atrocities in Asia, especially in China, the rallying point for disaffected Asians centers on the events that occurred in late 1937/early 1938 within and around the then-capital city of Nanking, the "rape of Nanking" or the "Nanking massacre."

As alluded to earlier, history is written by the winners. On the ground, Japanese troops attacked the Chinese capital city of Nanking on December 10. The city fell on December 13 with the defeat and withdrawal of Nationalist forces and an entrance ceremony was conducted by the Japanese on the 17th. City administration was handed back to the Chinese in January, 1938. The official version of what occurred in Nanking is that following the fall of Nanking, the Japanese conducted a systematic program of "ethnic cleansing," killing and raping civilians in the process, lasting until the beginning of February. Though the numbers are ambiguous, the number of civilians murdered range anywhere from 40,000 to 300,000. Until recently, the official version of the "Nanking massacre" was accepted as the truth. However, two books, What Really Happened in Nanking, by Masaaki Tanaka and The Alleged ’Nanking Massacre,’ by Tadao Takemoto and Yasuo Ohara, discuss and carefully evaluate the events surrounding the so-called massacre. Unsurprisingly, the accounts of events in 1937 written by the "losers" drastically conflict with the official version.

Oddly, the contemporary accounts do not mention a massacre. The military accounts from both the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) as well as the Nationalists chronicle the fall of Nanking but fail to mention either a concurrent or subsequent massacre. In addition, Japanese news reports of the time do not suggest or hint that a massacre occurred. In fact, the first time anyone that was involved in the military operations in and around Nanking heard of a "massacre" was 9 years later during the "Tokyo Trials." Prior to the arrival of Japanese forces, Nationalist government officials and the wealthy fled Nanking and withdrew to Chungking. The International Committee of the Nanking Safety Zone in Nanking was established by foreigners to manage a civilian refugee area within Nanking. The "Documents of the Nanking Safety Zone," a collection of documents prepared by the International Committee, does not report systematic murder of civilians, rape and looting by Japanese soldiers. Several months after the "massacre," in 1938, nationalist Chiang Kai-Shek published appeals to win support in his struggle against the Japanese occupation. In his appeals, he mentions the "cold blooded" Japanese aerial bombardment of Canton, but fails to mention a "Nanking massacre." Neither a publication by General He Yingquin, one of the top-ranking Nationalist officers and former minister of defense, Modern Chinese History: The Conflict with Japan, which contains military reports covering the period between 1937 and 1945 nor China Year Book 1938, published by the "North China Daily News & Herald (Shanghai)," which chronicles official Chinese speeches and events, mention the occurrence of a massacre in Nanking.

Japanese press and government reports do not mention widespread atrocities or large-scale breakdown of order in Nanking. Naturally, detractors will discount anything published by the Japanese government as propaganda or that the press in occupied China was muzzled. The Japanese military did report that looting and arson was encountered in Nanking, events that were due to the collapse of authority brought about by the retreat of Chinese forces and the earlier evacuation of the Chinese civilian authorities and not by Japanese soldiers. The international as well as Japanese media were allowed to tour Nanking, unescorted, in the summer of 1938. Aside from military secrets, the Japanese media freely reported on Nanking in December, 1938, and reports and photographs of the occupation depict a population going about its business in the midst of war.

In the few cases of unlawful conduct by individual soldiers, the offenders were severely punished. In fact, the Japanese military was keen on maintaining strict discipline since they were about to, for the first time in their history, capture a foreign capital. The Japanese high command admonished its solders to abide by professional conduct in dealing with civilians after the capture of Nanking. Rather than encourage atrocities, the Japanese had good reason to ensure that the occupation of Nanking (and the rest of China) was performed within the existing guidelines of warfare. Since Japan was dependent on importing raw materials from the U.S. and European colonies in Asia, maintaining good relations, in the midst of a war in China, was critical.
 
Res.6 by Japan is no.1 from How smart japanese 2005/09/20 04:14:46

The European colonial countries, the U.S. and the Soviet Union saw Japan as a threat to their economic and territorial interests in China. The major powers, prompted by the Nationalists, used the League of Nations at every opportunity to condemn Japan’s actions in China. In May 1938, The League adopted a resolution condemning Japanese military aggression in China, but the League failed to also condemn "massacre" or "atrocities" committed by Japanese forces in Nanking. This is surprising, since the Nationalists had previously used the world body to highlight other Japanese "atrocities."

The key pieces of evidence against the Japanese are the eye-witness accounts of the massacre. Several examples of confused or fabricated memories in context of the European holocaust exist. Similarly, it is likely that the "witnesses" to the Nanking massacre were either reciting rumors or were recounting fictionalized events. A case of John H.D. Rabe lends itself as a valuable lesson in objectivity. Rabe was the Chairman of the International Committee of the Safety Zone in Nanking, which was organized prior to the fall of Nanking. Rabe was a member of the Nazi party and president of Siemens’ Far East operations. The International Committee regularly reported to various embassies and Japanese military officials on the needs of the people within the Safety Zone and on any alleged mistreatment meted out by the Japanese military.

One of the functions undertaken by the International Committee related to care of the civilians was to keep a population census. Before and immediately following the Japanese attack, the number of civilians within the Zone was estimated to be 200,000, "nearly all the civilian population of Nanking." By the middle of January, 1938, the population increased due to an influx of refugees to about 250,000 (Based on the numbers alone, it is difficult to see how the number 300,000 came about.) Although the Committee reported about 50 murders and 300 rapes occurring from the fall of Nanking to the beginning of February, 1938 (most of which were recorded based only on second-hand information), Rabe recounted in his diary that "thousands of innocent civilians" were killed and "20,000 women and girls" were raped. Rabe did not witness any of the atrocities he alleges, basing the numbers on hearsay. Indeed, his numbers killed changes with each telling, from 49, which he reported to Japanese officials in Nanking, to "hundreds," which he reported to the British ambassador in Nanking, to 60,000, which he reported directly to Adolf Hitler. Other examples of his perfidy exist, such as telling the Japanese authorities that the Safety Zone was free of Chinese soldiers when in fact he knew it was not, thus endangering the lives of the refugees. It is likely that Rabe had selfish motives behind his actions. The bonds of allegiance between Japan and Germany during the 1930’s were minimal at best. The Germans were fully supportive of the Nationalists, supplying them with arms and military advisors in exchange for Chinese raw materials. In fact, Rabe sold military hardware to the Nationalists. Thus, Rabe’s efforts to cast the Japanese in the worst possible light were understandable in this context. (Hitler eventually stopped arms shipments to China and allied with Japan as a strategy to contain the U.S.S.R.)

 
Res.7 by Japan is no.1 from How smart japanese 2005/09/20 04:15:36

Claims that "ethnic cleansing" was Japanese policy do not make sense. National Socialist Germany had laws specifically designed to encourage non-Germans to leave Germany and plans to deport non-Germans to the U.S.S.R. In contrast, Japan had no official policy against the non-Japanese races (including Jews). In fact, Japan promoted racial egalitarianism. Japanese immigrants were subject to numerous restrictions in white countries in the early 1900’s. Japan felt that they were being restricted in implementing policy in their own back yard, particularly China, whereas Europeans had significant control and influence over vast regions of Asian. In response to these realities, the Japanese representatives at the 1919 Paris Peace Conference requested that a clause stipulating racial non-discrimination in international affairs be added to the Covenant of the League of Nations. Given the anti-Japanese climate, however, the non-discrimination clause was not passed. Rather than dominate, one of the goals of Japan’s expansionism in Asia was to liberate it from white colonialism, which would not only result in freeing Asians from colonialism but also serve to protect Japan against U.S. and European encroachment. However, the natives, wary of Japan’s intentions and supplied with U.S. arms, waged a brutal guerilla war. The Japanese military were under strict orders to respect civilians and their property. As the war progressed, however, local commanders started using extreme measures to deny the terrorists civilian support. (The German military was also faced with combating guerillas during their war and used harsh measures to deal with the both the guerillas and their supporters.) Japan had no plan for systematic mass murder within their empire.

One key issue not discussed, falling outside of the scope of the books, is the motive behind the current drive to humiliate Japan into paying "reparations." Some have noted the greed and chauvinism that Jews have displayed in their quest for "reparations" from Europe and U.S. Several hundreds of millions of dollars from Germany and Austria and billions of dollars in grants and loans from the U.S have been paid to Israel. Jewish groups have extracted several billion dollars more from other European countries and companies. Add to this the "psychic" currency that non-Jews pay every day - unchallenged acquiescence to support Israel and reverence for Jewish interests. It is possible that the Asians have assimilated the lesson that it is never too late to make your (former) enemy pay. It may be a co-incidence, but it appears that the Asians making claims against Japan tend to be poor. While Singapore and Malaysia had their share of the burden of occupation, much of the noise comes from the Chinese and Filipinos. Japan has paid billions of dollars in restitution as well as developmental aid to all of the countries under its occupation. Obviously, the clamor for more reparations is not to make amends but to punish. The Jewish lesson has taught that continuous wailing and breast beating, combined with economic and political pressure, will eventually lead to results. Japan has steadfastly refused to buckle under (whereas Germany and other European countries have caved in). However, given the importance the Japanese place on harmonious existence, it is not clear if the Japanese will continue to resist.

Both books by Takemoto and Ohara and Masaaki offer fascinating insights into one chapter of the Second Sino-Japanese War (1937-1945). Aside from the need for careful consideration when the charge of genocide springs up, there are other lessons that may be learned from Japan’s wartime experience. There are parallels between Japan’s experience in China and the experience of a former foe, the U.S., in Iraq. The Japanese entered China with the hopes of effecting "regime change," replacing the current leadership with one that is more accommodating. Although the Chinese nationalist military quickly collapsed from the onset, the war dragged and the Japanese were unable to suppress a guerrilla war. Following the war, the communists took control, secured an arsenal of nuclear weapons and built up the world’s largest army. It is likely that members of the former Iraqi regime, as did the losers of the Second World War, will be charged with "crimes against humanity." The resolution of the current conflict in Iraq is in doubt, but it is likely that, following the withdrawal of U.S. forces, Iraq and the rest of the Middle East, will become more unstable. If the fate of China at the end of the Second World War serves as a model, the future for Iraq is not encouraging.

 
Res.8 by 向かい等 from バンクーバー 2005/09/20 10:56:31

おれも、チエジュやチャンツイーみたいな韓国人や中国人の100人斬りレースしてーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーー  
Res.9 by 無回答 from 無回答 2005/09/21 01:39:34

This page is for Japanese.

DO NOT COME HERE !!!  
Res.10 by akabeko from バンクーバー 2005/10/07 15:42:58

res 9 shut the fuck up bull shit mouth...!!!  
Res.11 by ブハハハ from 無回答 2005/10/07 17:18:04

res10 shut the fuck up bull shit mouth...!!!
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Res.12 by 無回答 from 無回答 2005/10/11 00:56:37

Who the hell is Corean??????

Can somobody tell me where the hell is Corea??????  
Res.13 by yes from バンクーバー 2005/10/11 03:16:32

cute japanese girls always killing me...that’s hard for me , but I love them when they kill me on my bed..  
Res.14 by Aven from バンクーバー 2005/10/11 09:22:13

Oh man... your mistaken......
Don’t fuck with Japanese girls , their owns are so stink.....
I really cannot recommend Japanese girls..

They are not fresh and some girls has sickness.
It’s it too dangerous fuck with Japs ? They are bull shit.  
Res.15 by 無回答 from バンクーバー 2005/10/13 14:49:31

true  
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Res.17 by 無回答 from バンクーバー 2005/10/19 01:55:53

We don’t need These imformation which is from Corean. This is Japanese web site! Thanks a lot!!!  
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