Hello friends & freaks out there, i have never been to Canada (yet?) but i have many Japanese friends almost everytime they go Vancouver? i dont understand what so great about Vancouver? i hear montreal is good city & looks European style & Victoria i heard looks old too,i saw many pictures of Vancouver & i think looks so so, but just a modern kinda city without so much historic buildings? and many Hong kong,Chinese,Korean & Japanese & middle east? so i cant understand what would be such a great experience if your asian to go another country and experience seeing so many asian people? where is the Canadian city’s with so many Canadian’s not so much french influence? i want to go where i can see pure Canadian stuff? can u tell me whats Big deal with Vancouver? and where i should go for pure Canadian experience?

1) Vancouver has both ocean AND mountain. Whistler is the biggest ski resort. Sports lovers love Vancouver because of that.

2) Climate. Asians including Japanese love Vancouver because of not-too-hot/humid summer and not-too-cold/dry winter.

3) Closest Canadian city to Asia. Feel comfortable that you can access to your home country with just one flight.

4) Most Japanese don’t speak French and don’t even intend to study the language. French-spoken cities are attractive to visit but not to live (for at least for me.)

5) Lastly, coming to Vancouver and being in mixed cutlre IS a great experience. Hong Kong/Korean/Taiwan/China/India.... how much of them do we really know? Of course there are many European too. We see first nations too. We can see all of them in one city.
If you feel missing out, just choose other city where you think is the best, but you have to understand that different people feel differently. People choose Vancouver for many different reasons (which you might not understand), and they usually travel around Canada while they live in Vancouver to see many different cities anyway. 　

↑　　Yes 、You are right.
Everybody is different. If you do not think for you.
Just you do not visit. That is simple.
Japanese people like or not, That is not your business as well.
That is Canada. Each person has right to say anything.
You can not put only your way or you think.
If you think not right place to visit you can go another place. But, most people like Vancouver. It is not only Japanese people. From Chaina, Taiwan , Hong Kong, India, Euorop, etc....
It is so many people happy to live in Vancouver and proud themself. If you see vancouver, may you like it.
Good luck your life.
Just be happy. ok?
　

so wut !! i am angry !! you r rude !! baka 　

hey thanx for your message that was so good to understand where you are coming from & why people like Vancouver, but i want to know is there any city in Canada where i can experience mostly Canadian kind of cultre? i think Toronto is too mixed also like vancouver? but how about another city? i like to think of My Canada as rocky mountains grizzly bears big tree’s that look like Xmas tree’s etc.. very shallow mayb but i think these things make Canada so interesting i think? city’s can be same everywhere almost i think? iwould like venture to Yukon or somewhere pure like that? but tell me if you know the Canadian city which is most pure Canadian?
see ya... 　

Well Morgan, you have see it by your self...
Nobody could know what can make you feel "This is Pure Canada!"

For me, there’s tons of place and senes I can feel pure Canada.
Because I’m here to experience everything in Canadian way, and want to know how things work here.
I guess your not tring to see the good side of Vancouver aren’t you? OR your recerch about this city is maybe not enough.
You know, each persons sence of values and point of view is different.

So, all you need to do is,
Just go and visit, buddy!

Then, you must have something smells like Pure Canada!! 　

Work, study, Safe, clean air, healthy food & living style, green trees and mountain, and multiculture etc...
Everyone has reasons and preference where to live. I do not understand why people want to live in US.
You may not like Vancouver, but it is nice place for me by and large. Where do you live?
　

You can not say anything without real see.!
Picture is different!
Just come and see, If it is possible for you.
How beautiful any place in Canada.
You can not make up your mind.
But, That is only my opinion. I do not know you may feel different way you know?.
But, So many people same way which I felt. That’s way people want to live in this country.May be you too?.
Anyway, You should see first, then say somethig.
Ofcouse, It is not only good things. It stil nice to live in Canada. Japan is nice too. But, too expencive everything and too many pople as well. I love Japan too.
Canada is welcomes you always. !!!!!!!! 　

Hi you lucky people living in Canada, I live in Japan now Osaka its also nice city but can’t se mountains or green tree’s so much that’s too bad i think? yes i will experience Canada for myself ne day hopefully soon, i Can’t wait see them Big tree’s and Mountain’s in England are mountains are so small mostly hills really,only few mountain & not so Big the biggest is in Scotland and thats only 1000 metres small compared to Japan as well as canada, I lived in Kawaguchiko before ( fuji san) and i saw bear in the mountain it ws very scary i saw black bear & i had nowhere to hide i was lucky it didnt eat me ha ha,but im really interested about Big bear’s in north Canda i wish to see one without been in same situation next time, because i heard about the Biggest bears up i nthe north are called kodiak bear’s or something?? and there 12 feet when they stand up? how amazing & how scary to imagine? i read on internet pepper spray is only 70% safe & they can still attack back? so no way is so safe against bears they are very smart aren’t they? it scare’S me to think they are faster than us & can climb tree’s too what can we do but be there lunch? take care if you go bear country, i ran so fast down mountain to escape by Bear experience in Japan thats amazing because everyone told me it’S so rare to see a bear in Japan? so when i go Canada one day mayb i will meet my fear i na bigger way?? anyone with bear stories or great viewning lets hear about it lots? Teddy bear’s are much more cute than reality :p 　

レス８文法無視して意味不明。何が言いたいのか全然わからへんから無理せず日本語にしておきなさい。 　

hey dude, I think that there is no "pure Canada". study Canadian history, and you’ll see. people livin here are mostly immigrants(or their ancestors) so it’s hard to define the originality of Canada. I might say that Pure Canadian figure is aboriginal ppl, but again, Mmm.. I guess you r saying that whity with English is the Pure Canadian huh? Wrong! Asians come here to experience asian stuff? Wrong! Ppl come here since there are lots of job and academic oppotunities.If you wanna work or study, do you go to Yukon? North territory?Even though there could be no ESL or a job?Right on! go for it.Well,,it must be good experience though. But,again, ppl are looking for what they want, not what you want or expect.If you believe honky culture in Canada is the best,you may consider going to Nova Scotia or sth like that. More east, you know.You’ll see more white ppl out there. enjoy your stereotypes and honky culture. 　

Hello Aki what do you mean when you say Honky cultre sounds really f**k? I agree of course people want different things but you sounds like the kind of experience im talking about is HOnky whatever that means? but i think very sad to think such natural experience of beauty & landscape could be labelled as Honky cultre? you say you may consider going to nova scotia or shit like that? what do you mean shit like that? your so rude & f**k to think such place could even be s**t? Academic oppourtunities & society is real bulls**t, I dont think God cares so much for the modern world, the natural earth is sacred mother nature.I lived in Japan on a commune@fuji san with international people we learned to live in Nature without worry of money & society & we could party all night long & stuff,its far more educating than academic bulls**t & rewarding too, them aboriginal & dude’s were far more advanced in there thinking than you or me & it’s cool America is of native indian origin too, peace love & light 　

hey terry toddler. First, I have a difficulty reading your English. when did I say shit like Nova Scotia? I did say sth(something) like that. does this mean"SHIT LIKE THAT"?? I respect all places in Canada, man. maybe you should study Englsih first. I completely disagree with you. It is true, even though Canadian ppl have stereotypes and conciously or unconciously discriminate non-white ppl.Depends on who, yes, but there will always be hate crimes. why? We,including white& non white, unconciously admit the concept of White is superior to non-white. you know what I mean? maybe you don’t. Cool American? no they persecuted Aboriginal ppl. Now, also!(not actual killing but other means) I hate American, and like Canadian. I just can’t accept how americans behave in many ways. and you live without exsisting in society? no it’s almost impossible to be completely out of a society. why you party all night long? why you have friends? that’s b/c you are in a society. study English, Sociology, and History, then come back here. 　

It’s so funny that Terry Toddler have been pointed his inadequate English from many people. (I saw that in other message board as well.) I know some netive English speaker can’t use proper English. T.T. also mensioned that he lives in Japan, but I haven’t see him writing Japanese in other topic.
I want to ask T.T. "How can you live in Japan and not being able to speak Japanese? Do you think you understand Japanese culture when you don’t even speak the language?"

Back to Morgan’s question.
I like Vancouver because of its mild climate (especially summer) and many outdoor sports opportunities.
As someone already has mensioned, the beauty of mountains and oceans are unexplainable in words. And those nature is so accesible too. You drive 30 minutes from the city and you are at the mountain!

People here are so laid back, so you don’t feel guilty for leaving office at 5. I could enjoy my private life way better than when I was living & working in Japan.
I also enjoy getting know many different culture in Vancouver.
I’m Japanese, but it doesn’t mean I know other asian culture.
I could get to know many other asian culture since I came to Canada, and it was wonderful experience.
I also enjoy the companionship with European cultural people too, but I find it’s little more harder to be friend with them.
I don’t know why, but there is something which makes the friendship not so even. Well, may be it’s my inadequate English. Another thing about people in Vancouver is that people here know how to accomodate with people from other culture. Vancouverites are patient people. People here don’t treat me like I’m worthless because of my inadequate English compare to when I was in London or some American city.

I also appriciate many academic opportunities open for adults. I love the challange and Vancouver is the place where people encourage you to learn and improve yourself.

There are many more to talk about the greatness of Vancouver, but these are brief impression of mine. It’s the nature, climate, mixed culture, quality of life, and academic opportunity for me. 　

Morgan,
Canada is about multiculturalism and what makes this country so great is that it encourages you to keep your religion and culture of your native homeland. I see it as a place where people from all over the world get together and live in somewhat peace unlike our neighbors down south. I think you have the wrong "image" of Canada in thinking that it is mostly caucasians (whites) living here. My advice to you, try experiencing it for yourself first and don’t believe things that you only hear. There’s a reason why Vancouver is in the top 10 places to live in the world annually. I think res 13さん、has the right idea.
By the way, I have lived and worked in Japan, the US, and Canada. 　

Oops, I guess I never really answered your question....got off track. heh heh The pure canadian experience??? I say start from the west coast and go across the country. You’ll see differences and similarities in every province, city, or town. Try to hit smaller cities as well. Not just Vancouver, Montreal, Quebec, and Toronto. 　

Try proof reading your own material!
Yes, we too have poor English writing skills, and that’s probably due to the fact that once we get out of school everyone watches far too much TV.
Thanks for your warm tip. 　

なんだかんだ言って、住んでみれば分かりますよ。

私はモントリオールもビクトリアも住んでいましたが、今はここで落ち着いています。
バンクーバーは色々な意味で穏やかで住み易いし、景観も一番美しいと思います。

何人がとかは(人種は)関係ないと思いますよ。皆ひっくるめて、カナダ人ですから。

取りあえず、色々な都市を回ってご自分で確認されてみては？ 　

＞ i want to go where i can see pure Canadian stuff?

ところで、あなたの言う「pure Canadian stuff」って例えば何ですか？ 　

英語でしか読解できないんですか、トピ主さん。実はひそかに日本語が母国語だと思ってました。なぜならば文法無茶苦茶だし、内容から見てレベル低すぎ。Grade９以下。まさか英語の先生でもないでしょうねえ。怖すぎますよ。でもねえ、日本に住んでるんでしょう。私もどうやってMorganさんが日本語読解できずに日本で暮らしていけるか不思議に思いますよ。その点が私にとってMorganさんの日本人に対する質問内容よりももっと疑問に感じます。すごく不思議な方ですね。 　

Im sorry i completly dont understand Japanese i just saw (btw do you know what the word saw means)something about Grade 9 ?? my English is too native to be understood by people learning grammar, like you would say until but i would use til, so people in here got confused my English, I didnt learn grammar school was too boring for me i just had fun, But talking for me is no problem at all iv’e worked with different level’s of society, just my writing is awful, but anyhow unless you do a Job which requires writing English it’s not needed so much, Speaking is far better. Im in Japan because i live with my wife who is of course Japanese, i dont care so much i dont speak it because to speak with my wife is enough for me & the job’s i will do here i wont do if i need to speak Japanese. Even i like Japan so much since i was young i only speak some words to help get by? but still i enjoy Japan & its people its just enough ok ;) 　

で、トピ主は何人？

What’s your nationality and native language?

＞Speaking is far better.

Better?・・・so, what’s your profession? 　

>Res１９

英語理解できなかったりして（爆笑） 　

RES 22>

日本語理解できないんでしょ？ 　

Res 20 のコメント見て、ご本人がますます墓穴を掘ってるような気がしました。やっぱりGRADE９C-ぐらいです。話すことは問題なくても、いくらなんでも意味が通れば良いという英語だけではたとえ英語圏で生活しても支障があるでしょう。カナダでまじめに英語の勉強に取り組んでる留学生の方が余程ましな文章を書けると思います。Morganさんから英会話を取ればどのようにして意思疎通が取れるのでしょうか。ご本人が認めている通り英文法も日本語の読解も興味がないのに英会話のみで日本で暮らしていけるのはやはり不思議ですね。母国語ぐらいある程度の読み書きできるものだと思っていましたが、英語も日本語も母国語ではないようですね。何語ならばMorganさんはGrade 9以上の実力を発揮できるのかな。 　

Hmmm...Many people think Morgan is not native English speaker because his English is not formal which we Japanese people learn. But I think he IS native speaker. Some of my young Canadian friends write just like Morgan does.
Talking about ourselves, many Japanese people use broken Japanese too.

Morgan, I’m grad to hear that you enjoy the life in Japan.
It sounds you are surounded by nice people there.
I have many nice friends (Japanese and non Japanese people) here in Vancouver too. JPCanada does not represent how people are here in Vancouver. So, if you ever want to visit here, don’t be scared! ;)

P.S. Summer is arrived and it’s still bright at 9 in the evening here. It can get hot in summer but it’s not humid at all. No toss and turn nightmares exist here. I couldn’t handle muggy summer in Kanto area, so this is great for me. 　

Formalという問題じゃないでしょ。どうしてここまで文法無視して書けるのか不思議です。誰でも母国語を文法無視して会話するのは確かですが、言葉を文章にするのならば気をつけることはあるんじゃないですか。英語が流暢ならば尚更正しい文章が書けるのが当然です。 　

関東が蒸し暑くて住めないのならば関西地方、そしてそれ以上蒸し暑くなる日本並びに海外の都市ではどうやって暮らしていけるのでしょう。本当の蒸し暑さを経験した事ない人がトロントは蒸し暑いと言う。そして、東京に来て初めて本当の暑さを体験したような口ぶりで話す。しかし、それ以上暑い所に行けば初めて地獄を味わいバンクーバーの涼しさを実感しありがたいと感じるんだわ。 　

Hey thanks no25 atlast somebody understand’s me, yea i think its kinda normal too, I just didn’t learn grammar as simple as that people. If you didn’t believe me still i could bore you all sensless by talking about English football & England but i don’t think you deserve to be bored to death? but try me if you will? YEs its true 25 im surrounded by nice people especially my Lovley wife, Japanese are usually always friendly i find? Im living in kansai area Osaka its so hot here too i almost can’t bare because in UK it usually reache’s around 24 i think? but 2 years ago we reached highes ever in the history around 32 just like here people were loving it & paddling in fountain’s etc.. but here i just have to bare it as there is no escape? so Vancouver is almost perfect summer i heard? i envy that. 　

Hello 21 in answer to your Question which is none of your buisness my proffesion is called enjoying life & work when i must like now,i like working with people usually customer service in travel & tourist information. Meeting as many people from different countries as possible, working in London is great you could meet anybody from an indian guru to a swedish hippie guy smoking it up! for me if i lived somewhere to long without international atmosphere i’d get bored sooner or later. 　

So-----What’s your nationality ？？？

I don’t think you have passed G12 English. Have you graduated from high school ??? 　

Oh my your so rude people in here just get worse & worse im British English ok!! and i’ll spell in words what i dont care about I DONT GIVE A DAMN F**K ABOUT WHAT GRADE OR DID I GRADUATE ETC...is that all you English students can think about? i think its more enjoyable just communicating whatever everyone’s talking about? YOU ALL SOUND SO PROUD IN HERE AS IF YOUR ALL PERFECT ENGLISH STUDENTS...what grade, less than level 9,i dont want to hear your academic bulls**t anymore,talk something new, or are you just that damn boring??you sad twats!! probably you dont know what twat means?? if you were native you’d know straight away & i’ll Say it again you might have good grammar but i would love to see your faces if you heard me speaking English to my native fellow man or woman, you probably wouldnt understand neither? so dont give me your grammar grammar s**t i can work any English speaking country in the world and be succesful so dont push me your grammar s**t its time you started speaking speaking speaking its so simple speak speak speak ha ha. Or are you all becoming journalists ha ha you suck BIG TIME!! 　

Morgan, calm down... I know some people here is VERY rude. Maybe leaving poisonous comments on BBS is only thing they can enjoy. How pathetic. Please don’t waste your time to react those comments (which I’ve learned since I came to know JPCanada...)
I really hope that your impression of Japanese people is changed because of those people...
I’ve seen many messages on this BBS and I notice that people who leave malicious comments here always write bad bad Japanese, maybe worse than grade6 (strange punctuation, basic Kanji mistakes, pointless subject). So just laugh at them and ignore. Your English is much better than thier Japanese. 　

＞ i think its more enjoyable just communicating whatever everyone’s talking about?

アホか・・・読みにくいんだよ！！！あんたの英語！かなりヤバイ！


な〜んかさぁ、空威張りって感じですね。笑

虚し過ぎ。ま、日本で仕事に精出してたらJpなんて来ないよね。暇なんだな。 　

ところで、こんな人と結婚した日本人女性って・・・あなたの奥さんはこの事をご存知ですか？幼稚なんですけど。 　

Morganさんってどんどん熱くなってきてますね。更に文章も崩れてきて、文章自体にMorganさんの本性が露に出てきましたね。みなさん、こういう変な英語の文章はたとえ流暢な英語が喋れるようになっても真似しないことが重要です。ビジネスでMorganさんのような文章を書いたらクビです。（本人が自覚してないことは情けない）
カナダに滞在する人のための日本語サイトでわざわざ英語で書き込んだり、答えが分かりきった質問をして、挙句の果てに無礼な人が多いとまで言ってます。Morganさんの英語があまりにもRUDEすぎるからコメントが多いのでしょう。 　

いや、MorganさんのGradeを決めたのは先生です。高校に入学するのならばEnglish 9の次にCom１１取った方がいいですよ。UBC入学は年を考慮してもらえてもレベルが低すぎるため留年せざる終えないでしょう。もう少しまともな英語力で掲示板に投函してください。このサイトを見てる英語を学ぶ留学生への影響も考慮してください。 　

Hey thanks im so happy to get marked by a teacher, That’s something that didnt happen for a long long time, you are so kind and helpful to me, i will now live on in utter despair because my English isnt good enough its so important to me i might not be able to do anything anymore?? mayb i should just give in & tell God all that matters in life is Grammmar. That academic stuff is all people care about in here isnt it? you Japanese guy’s aint cool in here? no no all you guy’s can talk about is English & grammar,therefore you really s**k bigtime & if you were telling me like this in person i would of already knocked you for 6 making that 6 feet deep in the ground. GET A LIFE Even some Gaijin got rude a little atleast they could speak something other subject but you guy’s are the s**t list for sure, My wife could translate for me so i could understand, she is laughing now all you Japanese guys talk about is grammar, like somebody else said some people just come in here to suck & cause s**t. You guy’s or girls are funnie its all your subjects contain so therefore i think its not me with the sad life but some of you people need a life & think about other things too? i dont know any Japanese people like you in my life who only talk about this one thing? P.s im not coming back this room you all suck too much it makes me feel like sick, i still like Japanese, keep learning wonderful English no1 language & oh yea if Vancouver is so nice why you lot always talking so much s**t ha ha you suck Big time!!! 　

レス３７のコメントからしてすっごく性格悪そう〜な人。
日本に住んでもみんなから嫌われるよ。
僻んでるのがありありとわかるからもうそろそろやめなさいよ。
言い返しても無駄。 　

バンクーバーに入国禁止＆日本から出て行け！
塩まいて追い返してやれ！日本もエイリアンビザでいるくせにデカイ態度するな！ 　

英語力の低さのみならず低次元すぎるトピ主さよなら 　

結局は日本語も読めるようですね・・ 　

Just thought i’d let you f*****s in here know im having great time in another forum an Australian & people living in London chat room its far more interesting & nobody talks about Language’s,im also having great time in Japan still,Japanese rock but you one’s in vancouver are so sad. 　

Morganさん、じゃあね。バイバイ♪ 　

協調性がないのに無理して友達がいるとか負け惜しみばっかり言ってる・・・かわいそうな人ですね。